Why do salons hate boxed color




















This can help you as a professional see what has happened below the dye. However, the change to the hair structure cannot be reversed. The pigments that have been altered by bleach and other chemicals will remain until the hair grows out. The other biggest difference is that box dyes are packaged with a set colour and developer. In a salon, different colours and developers can be mixed to give the hair exactly what it needs.

This can help protect the condition of the hair, as the stylist has control over the strength of the developer used. One of the main reasons why hairdressers hate box dye is the difficulties that come with colour corrections. In this case, every client is different.

The best way to start is to get a full and truthful account of your clients hair history. You need to know exactly what has been applied and when so you can be prepared for what will happen next. Secondly, you need to be realistic with your client and manage their expectations. The result they are hoping for might not be achievable in one sitting, so make sure they understand the plan you have for them to fix their colour. Finally, colour corrections take a lot of skill and time.

Often, colour corrections are charged by the hour, so give your client your rate and an estimate for how long it will take.

Of course, make sure they are happy with how much you are charging before you begin. Permanent Colour. Semi Permanent Colour. More hair colour advice from our blog…. Your email address will not be published. Most were requested from schools and individuals, so if you would like access let me know!

The color you used was probably a temporary or semi-permanent color and those wash out fairly quickly. What color was your hair before you colored it and did you apply it all over or just in certain places? How much time is between the day you colored it and the day of your appointment? If your hair is light, then it may not wash out completely. The most dangerous at-home color products to use are those that chemically alter your hair during the coloring or lightening process.

Hi Erika, I just found your website and would love to see if you could give me some guidance! I am not sure what has happened to my hair but it is dry. I have been trying not to use any heating products and was told that I may have been putting on too much protein. I have read that co-wash might help?? My underneath hair is in good shape…just the sides, tops and bangs are fried. Leaving on beach vacation in a week and really need to do something before I go. I have talked to someone about doing a split end brazilian or a full blown brazilian.

My stylist does not do them. I also wonder if a clear or color glaze would at least help it de-frizz a little. I would really appreciate any information and guidance you could give me. Thank you very much. I have found your site to be very informative.

Were you getting highlights regularly before your last appointment? Extreme damage like that can be caused by a combination of things, but using too much protein is not the likely cause. Too much protein can make it worse, but without the other factors protein will just make your hair feel more dry, brittle, and possibly cause breakage. Do you regularly use a strengthening or repair shampoo? Lightener should only be applied on the regrowth to avoid damage.

If you really want to boost up the recovery then I would also use the shampoo and conditioner. I used it when someone fried off my ends and the first time you use it you can feel the difference. You are making several blanket generalized statements and making up percentage statistics. Nothing here is fact, just opinion. The opinion of a hairstylist, making this very slanted, and in no way balanced. Terrible article. And criticizing women for having a separate opinion makes you a part of a greater problem.

And who dyes their hair or has it marketed to them most? Look at all those shiny boxes with females on them and then go to the mens section. There is only Just 4 Men in colors. All of this sounds great BUT….. I used to use box color. Then a few years ago started going to salons for color.

Now, I am retired, a female disabled vet, and the cost has now become prohibative. Oh yes I have tried other salons over the last few years, some good, some not so good, but the cost is always similar unless you go to some of the salons in the shopping malls and such.

I understand a stylist is worth their money, but …. I have super curly hair, and I have been using box dye, but the last time I used box dye I noticed after that I lost some of my curl. And if not, is there anything you can suggest to get my curl back? The curl was probably softened from the strong chemicals that are in box dye formulas. They are much stronger than what salons use, so they cause more damage to your hair. There are several great lines that are ammonia-free, for example!

That can happen over time with box color use, or can be caused by any type of damage. As it grows, with regular trims and care, you will get your curly hair back eventually. When you color your hair you should only be applying color to the regrowth. If you apply color from roots to ends every time, you are damaging your hair a little more every time you color it.

I really think articles like this are misguiding. I think the answer is highly dependent on the person and what they want their hair to look like. I had my hair professionally dyed for years.

I feared the results of box color. I decided to try it once a few years ago because my budget was tight. The results were perfect and have been ever since.

Everyone is different. How can you say that salons are a waste of money when hundreds of thousands of other women disagree with you? In a comparison, a box blonde at-home job right next to a professional color will definitely be noticeably different! If a friend does it…. Most likely not. My point is that what is satisfactory to you may not be to all women.

This article is for women that seek the best and want flawless color. That in itself can be different depending on who you talk to. I am simply exposing the truth for those that want to know. Millions of women and men feel that salon services are well worth it. That does not make it wrong, and it certainly does not make this information misleading.

Hi Erika Brown, I would love to go get my hair professionally done. But I am too embarrassed and to scared of pick the wrong one. So I guess my question is , if you had to pick which box hair dye to use which one do you recommended. I am sorry I know you hate them. Thank You Erika Brown for your knowledge and experience. I appreciate it. Choose a product that is a semi-permanent color and choose a shade that is not drastically different from your own for the best outcome.

Here are a few examples to help you figure it out, and if you still have questions please e-mail me from the contact page. Here are a few tips to choosing a box color:. Most highlighting kits will look bad and cause more damage than color. Even then, use permanent once and demi-permanent for all applications after that. Color will not remove or lift previous color. Worst mistake ever! Never going to hairdressers again been to quite a few, well known, expensive , they caused nothing but damage both to hair and wallet - cutting with blunt scissors, damaging with lighting wanted to go blond, after all bleaching hairdressers results were darker than i originally had before!

As well as all of this, been using really expensive products, with no results apart of they smelled good and lathered well , went back to my cheap Garnier Fructis and seeing great results… I so wish it was all different, loved the idea of pampering myself with a good hair style…. It all depends on where you go, and unfortunately there are more of the bad than good out there.

MEN, lol! How many perfect gentleman do you come across? Doctors or other service career professionals…are just the same as hairdressers. Skills aside, our professions are the same. We must complete schooling, acquire and maintain state licensure, attract and retain clients, consult to identify the problem, asses the needs or wants, and provide a complimentary solution that is in the clients best interest.

Where did you go? How much did you pay? They are expensive, but not only that…. I have been coloring my hair at home since I was 15 and I am 39 now. I have been every possible shade of color too! And btw, my hair stylist that cuts my hair told me my hair is really healthy! Most people will not have the same experience as you did. It all depends on your hair type, color, environment, care, etc. If you did what some women do and try to switch back-and-forth from light to dark or vice-versa with a box….

I have some gray hairs. More concentrated in the back with a few in the front. I just want to cover my gray. Also, how often should I expect to go in for touch ups? I think that highlights are a great idea…and you will probably want a low light as well for the best gray blending. If you do all over color you will have to keep up with it more often, whereas with the highlights you can stretch it a few extra months!

Do you test your hair elasticity? What about the porosity? Do you know what boxed color coats the hair with? Do you know which metallic and vegetable dyes are being processed on your hair and scalp? Do you realize that hair is just dead cells?

Everyone knows that. If you eat healthy foods, drink plenty of water, properly manage stress, stay away from toxins ex: alcohol, drugs , etc. Your hair will look far better than someone who does not do those things.

Our lifestyle shows in our hair and skin, so if you lead an unhealthy lifestyle then your hair will look unhealthy just like the rest of your body. Pretty unnecessary to be so rude.

Many have valuable insight that YOU could learn from. Experience is a great teacher — pro or not. For example, most women know their own hair best, so understanding how their hair has reacted in the past to different coloring methods, level of porosity, etc. Totally unwarranted. No doubt about it; coloring hair is a science; a skill that requires the ability to apply said knowledge and training, with a myriad of factors at play with each individual client.

I respect the professionals in this field — at least, those that are worthy of said respect. Much can be learned by lay people with dedicated research, self-education, effort, trial and error, and so forth. It is their preference and should be equally respected. Appreciate all women and men and if some prefer box color, so be it. No need for the discourteous, egotistical undertones.

Please list your reasons. Then why would you assume that the same ONE boxed hair color formula would work for millions of patrons? I sympathize with Dyann. I live in a community where dealing with kinky curly hair is pretty depressing. Some will show me portfolios of past curly haired clients, but when they get to me, something goes horribly wrong almost always. Its not so much that one boxed hair color formula is uniform, but some of us know what dyes to use to get our results, what formulas will dry out our hair, what our hair will tolerate, what it wont.

I went to a salon and had an allergic reaction to one of their dyes. I also have terrible anxiety, and usually shake or almost have a full on panic attack if it gets too terribly crowded or busy. Now that ive experienced this, i would never put a stylist through this until i learn more about it.

It comes with the lack of stares and gossip via local salons. They sound so condescending, and it just makes those of us who cant go even worse. I was reading some of the responses and feeling absolutely horrible. We do understand, but some people take things very personally. I wrote this article because I felt like a broken record.

Our livelihood depends on our reputation. Or maybe they are just scared because of previous bad experiences. They are meant to help people make a better choice when coloring their hair at home. Just to touch on your allergic reaction…. The people that come see you are the ones who fucked up, not the dye! I remember one time I was super specific on saying I wanted exactly an inch cut off my hair because I really wanted to keep the length. I repeated myself like 6 times to make sure she understood me.

She cut off 4 inches! I know because I measured after. I had a stylist melt my hair during highlights. Nobody knows your hair better than you do. There is some valuable info here, but much of this is b. Nuff said. Oh yea…. I forgot to mention…. Everything I mentioned is backed by the American Board of Certified Haircolorists, so whether you believe it or not…..

Not my place to call certain aspects b. Additionally, I would think you would welcome and encourage ALL insight, opinions and experiences — from your clients without whom your expertise and livelihood would hardly be necessary. I was simply offering my personal experiences. Your blanket statement that a good result is impossible to achieve with box color is one I do not agree with. Works both ways. One can seek personal recommendations, do endless research reviews, etc.

I may be misinterpreting your tone, but you sound rather defensive. Lighten up and remember, WE are your paying customers.

That one never gets old. It means that you can say what you please within certain limits. And if you say the wrong thing to the wrong person — you can and will have consequences for your actions.

Thanks for the information!! I have a question though, if you are so kind as to be of assistance. I have not colored my hair in over 10 yrs. My natural hair is very dark brown, almost black. The effect is quite nice. My question is when the color starts to fade, will it "fade" back to my natural color or to something different?

I'm assuming the ammonia will have lightened my hair and so the color will fade but not back to my original color. Is that about right? Also the color will eventually fade on the grays as well right I'm not referring to the area of new growth where the grays will start to show up, but to the area that is currently covered.

When I re-do the color how important is it to stick with the exact same color golden Brown or can I go slightly lighter? Thanks in advance. It will fade to a dull and lighter version of what you have now. Your results sound on point for what you used and your hair color. On others the Golden Brown would be more gold to light brown, but with darker hair reddish tones are expected.

When you do it again I would suggest using the same one. Let that process for almost the full amount of time. Results vary from person to person and depend on how long you waited to retouch the color and how much it faded. She cut and styled my hair for me and I was thrilled with the result. At the previous salon, I used to see the same stylist for cuts for 9 yrs but she left the salon and I was devastated!

So the hunt began for another stylist I did try one of the other stylists in that salon but I was really disappointed with my hair and just promised never to go back. I have allowed my hair to grow out for 7 months and still have some box colour on the ends. I have chosen a crimson red for my hair…. I want to keep the condition of my hair healthy since Ive waited 7 months to apply colour again. Thank you for putting this information out there! I cringe when I think about how over processed my hair was.

Now I know why!! My friend coloured my hair for me and we never just did the roots, it was always all the hair and I would deliberately leave the colour on for an hour instead of 35 minutes as the box instructions suggest … sometimes my scalp would be numb for a few hours after each application hahahaa!!!

Anyway, thank you again!!! Depending on your hair color at the ends and the regrowth…. Especially when trying to achieve red! Remember that with any stylist you want to try out you can always schedule a consultation to talk about your color first, then go back for the actual appointment. They did their research and asked me specific questions about their hair and how I would choose to color it.

Good luck and I hope your hair turns out the way you hope! I know the professionals like to believe or make others believe that all hair color that comes in a box is awful, but it all depends. I have very dark brown almost black hair and color my hair a medium brown with one of the cheapest, ammonia-free home colors out there.

Guess what? I love it and get compliments all the time. Stylists who cut my hair always comment on how soft and healthy my hair is and how pretty my shade is. If the person doing the job is licensed and trained, clients have a right to expect a good result.

Years ago I myself had a few bad experiences with hair coloring at salons and actually did quick fixes with box color. Of course, not all salons are equal, but my point is that there are those who are happier and actually look just fine using home dyes. The point is that the general public is NOT educated enough in the slightest about how to work with hair color.

That you are using on your body. That are being absorbed on your scalp. That is absolutely NOT how haircolor actually works.

We go by a sometimes complicated numbering system that involves different tones and shades. Which is why I said that if the person is going for a slight change, has some experience with hair coloring and is familiar with how their hair will react, box color may work for them! I know professionals hate to hear it, but some people do have good DIY results. Do you dare to tell us? Start blogging about it if you think you are good enough and see how people respond…. You would know that I mention that some people can use a box and get okay results.

We do superior work and it is better. Experience is not gained from box coloring your own hair? I have no reason to blog about it. As I said, if you choose to blog about something on the internet, expect all kinds of responses. Therefore, you think you know us all and believe we would all do the same. Not true. Us as hairstylists get a bad rap sometimes because some people think our profession is fluff. Uhh, thanks. Remember that the next you visit ANY professional to cut, color, polish, or wax you, lady.

Because at one time — you WILL need us. I do give credit to those that have an opposing opinion and express themselves in a positive way without putting others down. Some people want to pay for amazing color and some would rather leave it to chance. The information is here because my clients would ask the same questions over and over again……these are the answers. Funny, when I go to the salon to get my hair dyed with no call ahead , they go get two bottles off the shelf, squirt some of each into a bowl, and mix it together then spread it on.

And this is an expensive salon. Must be incredibly expensive then. Like I mentioned in this article and several other posts…. Same with other professions that work with the public. The American Board of Certified Haircolorists are an elite group of professionals that uphold to those standards as well as going above and beyond your expectations.

This blog and every single comment is a load of superficial horse dung. Get a life instead of arguing over haircolor like a bunch of hoity-toity bitches. How did you do it?! You must tell us your secret! My heart goes out to you, really. What a terrible thing to have to be subjected to such horse dung — I cannot believe someone actually forced you to do such an absurd and horrific act.

Why is my negative opinion important? This brings me to an old favorite…. I had to use Google to get to this blog! I was actually surprised they suggested using a boxed color, because I always heard how bad they were for your hair. I can usually let my roots grow out for a few months, maybe even longer!

Of course, the color will fade, but I still get compliments, even on my faded color. Thanks for your input and for reading my blog! I love that suggestion because it looks great….

I purchased one color and the color right above it. Did the darker one first, then waited a week and put the other color in. It came out amazing! So, are those products the salon products we are led to believe?

I have an amazing stylist who is a color stylist here in Vancouver. When I first saw her she was aiming to repair my hair after years of going dark, then back to my natural blonde. She used color and highlights. So yes, some color experts are that — experts. I appreciate that. Some of your do great work. Thanks for reading! First of all….

I think dog grooming is totally worth it! Even hairstylists have trouble…it is definitely something meant for a pro! Box color is pre-formulated. Even though you have to mix the developer in, it is not the same as Sally color.

Box color is more damaging because the developer must be strong enough to work on a wide range of haircolors. Your outcome really depends on what is mixed, what was already on the hair, etc. Sally color is not the same as professional color. The only place those can be purchased is in pro stores which require a license to buy. Think of it like this: Dr. Perky vs. Pepper, Great Clips vs. These girls that are slamming hairstylist I would like to know if u went to the most expensive hairstylist in town or the supercuts or cheaper salons!!!

Big difference in us who are passionate and experienced and those salons that are just doing it for a job. Dear all, I hate having to cover my gray hair at home. I cannot count how many towels and pieces of cloth I have already stained and how many dark spots I left on doors and other parts around my bathroom.

Still, nowadays I have to retouch my roots at the maximum every 3 weeks. I cannot afford to have professional coloring that often. It is not only my poor budget but time restrictions too. However, I have seen improvement on the quality of home products. Am I totally wrong? I have been in a pinch and needed to settle on shampoo, but there are some brands that I would absolutely not use!

As long as you remember to only apply color to the regrowth and take great care of your hair…you will at least be preventing extreme damage and inconsistent colors. The other important thing is to stick with the same color or something close. Never try to go a shade lighter with a box or switch from brown to red, or black to brown.

I appreciate your comment because I know that everyone cannot go to the salon. I wrote this article for many reasons, but mostly for those that think haircolorists have no talent, knowledge, etc. We are always trying to prove our talents, but most stylists are sensitive to their clients limitations when it comes to pricey services. Thanks for you comments, Erika.

I try to do most of what you said. One thing I did not know until very recently is that applying the color to the entire length of my hair would make the ends darker… Only recently a hairdresser elaborated on that to me.

I think the box products are better, but the people working on this field is much better educated too the fact you have this great blog is only an example of that. Nowadays, the trainning is better and more available and on top of that professionals like haircolorists also know how to advise their clients.

We have talented people and not so talented in any profession. I, at least, really enjoy it. Keep the good work, Erika! Some others are looking for advice, and I welcome those comments as much as the negative ones. Feel free to e-mail me anytime if you have questions or need advice! You get what you pay for and the more you pay the better the outcome, like buying a car the less you pay the worse the car and the more issues. Thanks for commenting! Most everything is like that…. Second to those that are sticking up for box color are the stylists looking for help with explaining the reasons why box color is not a good choice!

Let them color my hair? Cold day in hell. Did you ever think that your measurements are off? I will have you know that all combs have a measurement guide in inches along the back side so we can know exactly how much we are cutting off.

Most often the problem is a direct result of a vague consultation. Maybe you are just going to a cheap stylist…. Watch this video for a great example about why haircuts go wrong. Unfortunately, there are plenty of hairstylists out there that just want to get cutting and get it over with so they can make more money.

The sooner you are in and out, the more they make. I always repeat what was discussed and ask lots of questions because clients do not know how to describe what they want. I want to make sure we are on the same page because I want them to be pleased so they will be a repeat client. Great stylists know that longevity is the best way to make money in the business…. Colour is hard to remove. Colour goes patchy. I hate the retail box colours no colours should be sold to any one that is not trained in our profession.

And for some one to say we over charge first of all , I will say you for quality in colour , you pay for quality in stylist and salon director!! In my opinion, why ruin your hair with box color when you can enjoy your natural hair at its healthiest?

Just do something else to make a change like a new style. If you want plastic surgery…a new nose, boobs, or a face lift…. Should you go to Tijuana, Mexico and pray for a great result…or to just live through it and hope you look better? Or should you just learn a new makeup technique, get a push-up bra, or some skin cream? That is exactly what you and this so called professional blog are doing. There are very many women who are doing their own hair out there that are very happy with the results.

Haircolor, manicures, facials, massages, etc. The same goes for shopping at Nordstrom, buying groceries at Whole Foods, driving a BMW, living in a luxury waterfront condo, going to the dentist, and so on.

In every industry with every product or service there are mediocre options, premier options, and a few in-between. Of course not! I settle for the cheaper option and hope to one day be able to eat like that. Instead, I give them tips that will help if they do use box color.

I constantly answered the same questions with each new color consultation. I realized that the general public has no clue about what to look for in a truly talented colorist. I needed credibility to ease the minds of new clients and I wanted to make sure that I had the knowledge to back it up.

The only other way to prove it is for someone to let you work your magic. Maybe some day you will be able to look at things differently.

Home hair coloring can be a scary thing. So scary, in fact, that some people grow up being told never to touch their own hair and to always opt for a salon. However, it's a myth that doing your hair color at home is always bad or dangerous. You just have to go into the experience with a little knowledge.

If you're covering some gray, or want to change your hair one to two shades up or down, or just want to change your tone, you can likely do it at home.

Though, there are risks. We chatted with a few of the industry's top hair colorists to uncover what those are. Keep scrolling to learn everything there is to know about box dyes, as well as why you might want to think twice before using one.

Home hair color also known as hair dye or box color can be purchased at your local drug store, beauty supply, or discount store. The color is usually easy to mix with little to no measuring, though, it comes with no options to alter the pigmentation.

The dye itself is typically a more concentrated formulation than salon hair color because the color has to be strong enough to work on anyone's hair. This means the formula is the same, no matter how thin, thick, coarse, dark, light, highlighted, color-treated, or chemically processed your hair is at the time of application.

In other words, box color doesn't discriminate. Mahshid Baghaei, a colorist at NYC-based mizu Louis Licari salon, says "Coloring your hair at home may seem like a good idea due to its potential cost-effectiveness, as well as not having to take a trip to the salon, but keep in mind that this process requires taking fine-grained details into consideration that may not always be recognized by a client's eye.

Meet the Expert. As such, you have to be super mindful of how long you leave it on your hair so as to not end up with a beauty catastrophe.

Rob Peetoom, the founder of Dutch salon chain Rob Peetoom , says that going blonde usually stains hair in a totally unexpected way and often turns out dark and brassy. Arndt tacks onto this, noting that this happens because the hair's mid-shafts and ends process much slower than the roots. According to Baghaei, covering a small amount of grays read: less than 20 to 30 percent of your hair or matching your current hair color is typically doable.

Just keep in mind that if you do decide to use a box dye, the color of hair on the person on the box is not the exact color that your hair will turn out. That's a photoshopped image—it's approximate. If you're new to coloring your hair at home, you should choose a temporary, semi-permanent, or demi-permanent color whenever possible over permanent. It's like the difference between using a Sharpie or a pencil on a white wall.

Sure, you can get the sharpie off, eventually, but the process is much harder than trying to get pencil off. And if it's your first time doing this, you might want to start off in pencil.



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