I never go that from the story. I always read it the same as Merroe. On you thinking that Sauron wouldn't have thought that someone would try to destroy The Ring rather than wield it, he didn't.
Not until Frodo put it on at Mount Doom. Is him thinking they might something from the movies? That's Balrog 's point: he wouldn't have. And his question is still unanswered: why would Mordor or more correctly, as Merroe points out, the Nazgul believe that Aragorn and the hobbits would stay with a weakening Frodo , who could only slow them down, and further, allow him to retain the Ring?
From their point of view, the reasonable thing to do would be to take it and leave him behind. The original intent, of course, was not to wound him, but capture both him and the Ring.
As Gandalf explains: 'They tried to pierce your heart with a Morgul-knife which remains in the wound. If they had succeeded, you would have become like they are, only weaker and under their command". The implication is that this effect would have been immediate: Frodo would have put up no resistance, and they would have gotten away with both him and the Ring, with, as they thought, no trouble from hobbits or man, who would have been of no account to them.
After the failure of the original plan, the reasons for which Meroe gave some above, the next thing to do would be to attack again. Whoever carried the Ring, whether Frodo or not, would still be a target, as they could sense the Ring, if near enough.
If Frodo still carried it, so much the better -- they would be able to see him, making the task easier -- but they would have attacked whoever had it in any case. When Strider 's Ranger abilities caused the Nazgul to lose track of the party, they planned to strike when they returned to the Road to cross the bridge; after Glorfindel drove them off, they pursued, with some setting an ambush at the Fords, the next crossing place.
It's at least possible that they believed Frodo wouldn't have been abandoned, and that he would still carry the Ring, in which case, he should have been overcome by his wound; they certainly wouldn't have guessed he would hold out so long.
But this is presumption on my part: as Balrog says, going by "Mordor-morality", the logical thing to do would be to take the Ring and discard him. It's a nice question -- in the Shakespearian sense. In either case, though, the problem would remain: how to get the Ring?
And I don't see how they could have acted otherwise than they did. Last edited: Jul 29, Squint-eyed Southerner said:. Click to expand It's at least possible that they believed Frodo wouldn't have been abandoned, and that he would still carry the Ring , Even if succumbing to the wound turned him into a Mordor-loyal wraith, the others, especially when Glorfindel became involved, could still have overpowered him and taken the Ring safely into Rivendale and still send the water on them to kill their horses and leave them weakened.
As I said, my reading of Gandalf 's words is that, had the plan succeeded, they would have been able to grab Frodo at once. It failed, but the sliver would normally be expected to achieve the same effect within a few days. If you're ok with taking the movies' word for it, Gandalf clearly states that it was the Witch-king Gandalf: Sauron has yet to reveal his deadliest servant. Valorum k gold badges silver badges bronze badges. DisturbedNeo DisturbedNeo It was the Witch-King Probably Two of the figures halted.
Valorum Valorum k gold badges silver badges bronze badges. Po-ta-toe - The tallness is the giveaway. He's the leader. He's the tallest of the five. That Ralph Bakshi - looks very much to me like live film someone filmed in green light wearing a practical suit with traditional animation added in.
Tim - Pfft. If you've seen one mountain, you've seen 'em all. If you remove the long helicopter shots and over-extended fight sequences, Jackson's films are about four minutes long each. Show 4 more comments. Buzz Buzz Sign up or log in Sign up using Google. Sign up using Facebook. Sign up using Email and Password. Post as a guest Name. Email Required, but never shown. Upcoming Events. November Topic Challenge: Samuel R. Delany ends Nov Featured on Meta. So they fled, but also knew or so they thought that Frodo would be turned very quickly.
However is all 9 of them were present, they probably could have stayed and fight. This role is for Frodo. His mission failed in the end the Ring was destroyed indeed, but no more by him since he yielded to the ultimate temptation , he could not recover, gave Bag End away and left the Shire forever.
All through the night, Aragorn healed the wounded of the city. Athelas or Kingsfoil was known to slow the poisonous effect of the Morgul-blade, though true healing was necessary in order to fully cure a victim. However, it disintegrates very shortly thereafter, as opposed to the period in the novel. Also, the shard of this blade doesn't remain in Frodo's wound but his condition after being stabbed is much more dramatic than in the book.
Gandalf later tries to use the Morgul-blade as proof that the White Council should attack Dol Guldur, but Saruman overrules him. Saruman believes that there is no proof that it could be a Morgul blade. Galadriel points out that the blade was buried with the Witch-king of Angmar by the men of the north within the High Fells of Rhudaur.
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